Oh well. I got declined the first time I tried... well sort of. My brother submitted my first application and I probably would have gotten declined but I got better, shaped up, met the members before I applied, became their friends, and then applied. Try that next time. People like it when others make an effort to get to know you without the thought of their application looming. If you apply and then act really nice then they have to wonder if you are just being a suck up but I you are honest about who you are and meet them then it greatly increases your chances. My apparently took something like 4 days to pass but I had spent about a month with the guys before that. That is the key to getting into any clan... well you need skill too but if you ok and they like you they will be more likely to take you over a pretty good player who is almost unknown to them and has a questionable attitude.
Whoops the secrets out my bad guys.
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